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spoons



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Location: St John's Town of Dalry

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a private stone on a CWGC listed grave.

Name: TAYLOR
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 26/12/1916
Service No: 2292
Additional information: Son of John and Mary Biggar Taylor, of 1, Mill Brae, Maxwelltown.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 139.
Cemetery: TROQUEER NEW BURIAL GROUND



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: WALTERS, DAVID
Initials: D
Nationality: Australian
Rank: Flight Sergeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Australian Air Force
Age: 21
Date of Death: 20/08/1943
Service No: 421776
Additional information: Son of Samuel and Elizabeth Ann Walters, of Cronulla, New South Wales, Australia.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. H. Extn. 2. Grave 15.
Cemetery: TROQUEER NEW BURIAL GROUND

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: WOOLLEY, ROBERT MAYER
Initials: R M
Nationality: Australian
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Australian Air Force
Age: 29
Date of Death: 05/12/1942
Service No: 414618
Additional information: Son of Henry Mayer Woolley and Eilie Woolley, of Charleville, Queensland. Australia.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. H. Extn. 2. Grave 14.
Cemetery: TROQUEER NEW BURIAL GROUND

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is classed as a non war grave looked after by CWGC, i.e. not listed on CWGC's online database.

T E Perks died 16th January 1943.

I cannot now remember where I came across the information but I believe that Mr Perks was an engineer employed by the RAF and he died in a plane crash in connection with his work. His pilot (A E Usher) is fortuitously buried in the adjacent plot (see second photo below).

I think this is an example of where the CWGC's rules for inclusion do not do the man justice. He actually died in an RAF aircraft, but as it was a result of a training accident rather than as a result of enemy action, it doesn't count as a war grave. Doesn't hardly seem right.

This is the last of the CWGC listed graves in this cemetery, from here on they are all military inscriptions on private burials.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: ARMOUR, ROBERT MERRY
Initials: R M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: "B" Coy. 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 10/10/1918
Service No: 241124
Additional information: Son of James and Helen Armour, of "Meninwood," Pleasance Avenue, Maxwelltown, Dumfries. Also served at Gallipoli and in Palestine.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. G. 11.
Cemetery: ZANTVOORDE BRITISH CEMETERY

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt John Black 1/5th KOSB died 19th Jany 1920 aged 27 years

I cannot find any trace of John on CWGC or on SNWM - this is possibly a non-commemoration (I am assuming he is actually buried here). Will keep looking.

Both brothers are listed on the Morton (Thornhill) memorial.

Name: BLACK, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 23/07/1916
Service No: 16209
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Black, of 41, Rae St, Dumfries, and the late Adam Black.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 4 A and 4 D.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:55 pm    Post subject: edit for John Black Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
Sgt John Black 1/5th KOSB died 19th Jany 1920 aged 27 years

I cannot find any trace of John on CWGC or on SNWM - this is possibly a non-commemoration (I am assuming he is actually buried here). Will keep looking.

Both brothers are listed on the Morton (Thornhill) memorial.
Brother John is:-
NAME: BLACK, JOHN
iNITIALS: j.
Nationality: United Kindon
Rank: Sereant
Reg/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 1/5th Bn.
Age: 27 years
Date of Death: 19/1/1920
Service No: 642
John was born in the year of 1893 his parents were Adam Black and Mary McKinnel and their second son William killed in 1916.
John was a Pre-war territorial, emlisted 1910, served at Gallipoli, landed 6/6/1915 with orginial contigent. He was invalided home sick, discharged no longer fit for Military service in Nov 1915 - with Phthistis (TB), he must have be quite seriously ill to have been discharged so quickly. On his death certificate death as above. As John only in war service short time & discharged he is not recorded on either Commonwealth War Graves or Scottish National War Memorial. All this information given to me from Dr Stuart Wilson from - sonsofgalloway.org.uk for my 'Morton War Memorial Book'
Teddy Edited 26/2/12




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DEMPSTER, WILLIAM ROBERT
Rank:Private
Service No:22155
Date of Death:14/06/1916
Age:26
Regiment/Service:Canadian Infantry
8th Bn.
Grave ReferenceEnclosure No.6 II. D. 3.
CemeteryBEDFORD HOUSE CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of the late Robert and Janet Dempster

William was born in Quincy, Mass. USA which like Barre, Vermont (where his father died) was a granite quarrying area. After his father's death William and his family moved to Castle Douglas. His mother, who had been born in Balmaclellan, later married a Maxwelltown man.
William Robert Dempster is listed on the Castle Douglas and Maxwelltown/Troqueer War Memorials.



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BELL, JOHN HENRY
Rank:Gunner
Service No:121305
Date of Death:01/05/1918
Age:22
Regiment/Service:Royal Garrison Artillery
319th Siege Bty.
Grave ReferenceIX. B. 7.
CemeteryBOULOGNE EASTERN CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of William and Agnes Bell, of 60, College St., Maxwelltown, Dumfries.


McGEORGE, ALEXANDER
Rank:Private
Service No:33326
Date of Death:23/08/1918
Regiment/Service:Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
7th Bn.
Panel ReferencePanel 6.
MemorialVIS-EN-ARTOIS MEMORIAL
Additional Information:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
This is a private stone on a CWGC listed grave

Name: FITZSIMON, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 30/10/1914
Service No: 1879
Additional information: Husband of Janet Neisham Fitzsimon, of Renwick Bank, Maxwelltown.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 300.
Cemetery: TROQUEER NEW BURIAL GROUND





An interesting error on this stone - John Fitzsimon died in Alloa Hospital in Clackmannanshire.
The 5th Battalion KOSB were at Tillicoultry at the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
This is a CWGC listed grave and I really had to hunt for this one. If you look very carefully, you can just make out the relevant inscription right at the bottom.

Name: McGOWAN, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sapper
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Age: 41
Date of Death: 30/09/1917
Service No: 293326
Additional information: Son of Robert and Mary McGowan; husband of Margaret McLaurin McGowan of Cairngill, Pleasance Avenue, Maxwelltown. Born at Maxwelltown.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: North Border. A.107.
Cemetery: TROQUEER NEW BURIAL GROUND





This one had me confused for a while until I realised that the Jessie Dobbie named on the grave was Robert's first wife.
He re-married in 1915 to the Margaret McLaurin McGowan named by CWGC. His death was registered in Bristol and SNWM shows him as Royal Engineers - Inland Waterways & Docks.

Ken
(ps Well found, Paul)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BOSTOCK, ROBERT SOUTHEY.
Rank:Lieutenant.
Date of Death:13/06/1940
Age:29
Regiment/Service:Royal Navy
800 Sqdn. H.M.S. Ark Royal
Awards:Mentioned in Despatches
Panel ReferenceBay 1, Panel 2.
MemorialLEE-ON-SOLENT MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Robert V. and Janet Bostock; husband of Catherine Grace Bostock (nee Watson).

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BROWN, JOHN ALEXANDER.
Rank:Private
Service No:40159
Date of Death:15/09/1916
Age:19
Regiment/Service:King's Own Scottish Borderers
7th/8th Bn.
Panel ReferencePier and Face 4 A and 4 D.
MemorialTHIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Henry and Jessie Brown, 2, Nellie Ville Terrace, Maswelltown, Dumfries.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CARSON, WILLIAM.
Rank:Private
Service No:241510
Date of Death:19/04/1917
Regiment/Service:King's Own Scottish Borderers
1st/5th Bn.
Panel ReferencePanels 23 and 24.
MemorialJERUSALEM MEMORIAL
Additional Information:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHALMERS, JOHN.
Rank:2nd Corporal
Service No:1109
Date of Death:09/05/1915
Regiment/Service:Royal Engineers
1st Lowland Field Coy.
Panel ReferencePanel 1.
MemorialLE TOURET MEMORIAL
Additional Information:

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