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apanderson
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 6903 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow |
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Some more mystery men that I can't find on CWGC.
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ALEXANDER INNES
Killed in the Great War
Age 20
Son of Alexander and Isabella Innes (nee McDonald)
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JAMES KIRKCALDY, Sgt. 1/6th H.L.I.
Died on Hospital Ship at Gallipoli
13th December 1915
Age 25
Son of James and Isabel Kirkcaldy (nee Swan)
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ROBERT KILPATRICK
Died 15th March 1916
Age 32
Son of Thomas and Helen Kilpatrick (nee Hunter)
The following is the closest I can find.
Day and month of death matches but the year is out and there's not very much else to go on.
Name: KILPATRICK
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Date of Death: 15/03/1917
Service No: S/15804
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. G. 12.
Cemetery: FAUBOURG D'AMIENS CEMETERY, ARRAS
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David McNay Site Admin
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 1559 Location: Lanarkshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Name: KIRKALDY, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Date of Death: 13/12/1915
Service No: 1099
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 173 to 177.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL |
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David McNay Site Admin
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 1559 Location: Lanarkshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Can't find the first one, but you can probably narrow it down to about half a dozen candidates. |
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spoons
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1789 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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It might be worth checking out this man
Name: INNES, ALEXANDER
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 14/12/1914
Service No: S/3342
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 38.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
According to SNWM, he was born in Glasgow. His obit was published in the Glasgow Evening Times, 6 Mar 1915, page 3 (with portrait)
The only other Alexander Innes in the Glasgow Evening Times Roll of Honour was aged 42 at time of death.
You can download the index to the Evening Times Roll of Honour here http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/08C30067-B12D-4D5F-882C-87BB56C87332/0/1207EveningTimesRollofHonour.xls
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apanderson
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 6903 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you kind sirs!
2 out of 3 posts now updated to include the details.
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spoons
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1789 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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The Robert Kilpatrick you have identified is shown on SNWM as born in Glasgow. There is no Robert Kilpatrick on the Evening Times Roll of Honour. I have seen at least 3 instances where the date of death on the gravestone is wrong by exactly one year, most commonly where there is several years before the next family death and it was presumably added a that time. Therefore I would be reasonably confident that this was the right man.
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apanderson
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 6903 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers Paul!
I find half the time it's a case of 'it's got to be him' and yet other times I find myself doubting stuff especially when there's half a dozen people who it 'might be'.
I don't know why I can never find anybody of the SNWM - I must be doing something wrong (surprise, surprise!!)
Anyway, I'll keep going and I know there's always someone on here who'll help me out.
Thanks again!
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David McNay Site Admin
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 1559 Location: Lanarkshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'll try and look up the Evening Times man next time I'm at the Mitchell. I'm not sure when that'll be though, so don't hold your breath... |
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spoons
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1789 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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apanderson wrote: |
I don't know why I can never find anybody of the SNWM - I must be doing something wrong (surprise, surprise!!)
Anne |
One thing I have found about SNWM search is that it is sensitive to trailing blanks. If you search for surname McCulloch then you will find all the McCullochs, but if you add a space on the end, you won't find any. Same applies to initials.
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apanderson
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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And another . . . . .
Gunner JAMES WILSON MORRISON, R.F.A.
Killed in action at Cambrai 30/11/1917 age 21
Second son of John S. and Margaret Morrison (nee Sharpe)
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spoons
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think this is your man, from SNWM
Surname MORRISON
Firstname James
Service Number 650970
Date Death 30/11/1917
Decoration
Place of birth Glasgow
Other (T.F.).
SNWM roll ROYAL HORSE AND ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY
Rank Gnr
Theatre of death F.& F.
Bit of a mystery though, there is no-one with this service number on CWGC and I cannot find him there at all.
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apanderson
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Paul.
Do you know what (T.F.) means? (alongside 'Other')
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apanderson
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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And some more!
Brothers JAMES & WILLIAM RODGERS
Killed in France
Sons of William and Margaret Rodger
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spoons
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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apanderson wrote: | Thanks Paul.
Do you know what (T.F.) means? (alongside 'Other')
Anne |
Only thing I can think of is Territorial Forces.
He is not listed on the Glasgow Evening Times Roll of Honour
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spoons
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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apanderson wrote: | And some more!
Brothers JAMES & WILLIAM RODGERS
Killed in France
Sons of William and Margaret Rodger
Anne |
I cannot find them anywhere, with any spelling of surname, even in the 1901 census. Got any more info on the parents? Dates of birth, death, age etc?
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