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apanderson
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 Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: What happens if . . . . ? |
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A name is mentioned on a family gravestone and there's not enough information to identify them on CWGC/SNWM?
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David McNay
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: What happens if . . . . ? |
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| We just post what information we can and hope that someday someone will identify the person concerned. |
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spoons
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I have photos of a few 'an uknown soldier' or 'an unknown airman' and I will be posting those of course, even though their names will never be known.
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apanderson
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: Another question |
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This might be a stupid question but the thought occurred to me . . . .
We're all happily posting photos and details but if we are to try and keep as much as we can to an alphabetical system (with CWGC burials being first on the list then family stones following), how do we know who has and hasn't got what and who intends to do where?
For example I recently 'did' parts of Old Monkland and New Monkland Cemeteries but I only photographed a very small amount in each. If someone had done the same for other graveyards and cemeteries, we can't edit each other's messages or add posts in-between.
Would this mean if we were to start posting on one particular place, we shouldn't post details and photos till we knew it was complete? Or should we try and add all the known CWGC listings first then try to add the photos?
I've found a few CWGC (well I think they're CWGC) stones in some of the bigger Glasgow cemeteries (I can't remember whether it was Lambhill or the Western Necropolis) which weren't listed on the CWGC site - what should be done with them?
Sorry to keep asking questions!! 
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spoons
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Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Another question |
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| apanderson wrote: | This might be a stupid question but the thought occurred to me . . . .
We're all happily posting photos and details but if we are to try and keep as much as we can to an alphabetical system (with CWGC burials being first on the list then family stones following), how do we know who has and hasn't got what and who intends to do where?
For example I recently 'did' parts of Old Monkland and New Monkland Cemeteries but I only photographed a very small amount in each. If someone had done the same for other graveyards and cemeteries, we can't edit each other's messages or add posts in-between.
Would this mean if we were to start posting on one particular place, we shouldn't post details and photos till we knew it was complete? Or should we try and add all the known CWGC listings first then try to add the photos?
I've found a few CWGC (well I think they're CWGC) stones in some of the bigger Glasgow cemeteries (I can't remember whether it was Lambhill or the Western Necropolis) which weren't listed on the CWGC site - what should be done with them?
Sorry to keep asking questions!!
Anne |
I think post what you have - David says he is not too fussed about alphabetical order so I am sorting what I have but the gaps will be filled in whatever order they come.
I don't think that you can put the names in first and add the photos later - the problem is that you can only edit your own post so if you put the name in, someone else cannot add the photo, only make a new reply which leaves the original post in sequence but without photo and the duplicate with photo out of sequence.
Most of the unlisted CWGC stones that I have seen are actually post 1947 so they are MOD and not CWGC (maintained by CWGC on behalf of MOD I believe) and therefore not listed on CWGC website.
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apanderson
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Paul, all very confusing!!
The 'missed' stones I was talking about were either WW1 or WW2 - I'll come across them eventually.
On one of David's threads (I think somewhere in Lanarkshire), he had posted an individuals details and added to the message that he couldn't find a particular stone and this is what got me thinking about the best way to include all the names - if you had a photo or not. I've hunted high and low for stones in the past and never been able to find them and yet they had been found by someone else, so at least it was known there were stones there at some point. (I'm talking about when I was tryng to update BWMP Spreadsheets)
When I did the Western Necropolis during the summer, there were a few CWGC stones missing. These should have been in beside other 'groups' of CWGC stones but they simply weren't there. The West Nec hadn't been done for BWMP so I think they must have got all their info from CWGC?
I'll just need to stop thinking and confusing myself and just get on with it!
Anne |
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Adam Brown
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Another question |
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| apanderson wrote: | | … if we are to try and keep as much as we can to an alphabetical system (with CWGC burials being first on the list then family stones following), how do we know who has and hasn't got what and who intends to do where? |
With all the best will in the world I don’t think we can keep it alphabetical. Perhaps a way round this is to list all known headstones in the first or second post in a thread and then people can cross-reference what’s posted against the list. The list can be edited with an asterisk or a different colour if a photograph has been posted. It’s a LOT of admin for the moderators or those who posted the message with the list but it will avoid duplicates.
| apanderson wrote: | | I've found a few CWGC (well I think they're CWGC) stones in some of the bigger Glasgow cemeteries (I can't remember whether it was Lambhill or the Western Necropolis) which weren't listed on the CWGC site - what should be done with them? |
If they are post-war MoD ones they will have the top corners ‘lopped off’. If they don’t then they will be private headstones made to look like CWGC headstones. You see them for retired ex-servicemen and I’ve posted one in the Brora thread where it is actually a memorial to a chap in the NAAFI who died in 1962 and is buried in Aden. His memorial is a copy of his brother’s CWGC headstone which it stands next to.
In this case where there are no CWGC details and for a headstone for an RAF pilot who died in 1935 I’ve just typed up the details and added them to the post.
Adam |
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