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Stewartry
Joined: 25 Sep 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: Kirkandrews Old Churchyard ***COMPLETE*** |
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OS Map Ref: NX 601 481
About 2 miles to the west of Borgue along a side road to the left (south).
Number of CWGC burials 1
(edited by spoons to add above template on first post)
following photo by Ken Morrison
Name: ELMS, FRANCIS JAMES
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Cavalry)
Unit Text: 9th Sqdn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 10/10/1918
Service No: 50656
Additional information: Son of James and Lydia Bertha Elms, of 277, Lewisham High Rd., London. Born in London.
Cemetery: Kirkandrews Old Churchyard, near East wall.
This newspaper report explains how a soldier from London comes to be buried in a churchyard near Borgue, Kirkcudbrightshire:
The RMS Leinster was sunk by UB 123 in Dublin Bay on 10th October 1918 - over 500 lives were lost. The body of L/Cpl Elms was found on Saturday, 9th November and he was buried the following Wednesday.
Hopefully, someone will be able to visit Kirkandrews Old Churchyard and photograph L/Cpl Elms' headstone. His is the only CWGC burial at this site.
Stuart _________________ Sons of Galloway
Researching men and women from Kirkcudbrightshire who served in WW1 and the King's Own Scottish Borderers, particularly the 5th (Dumfries & Galloway) Battalion |
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kenmorrison
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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L/Corp Elms was one of eleven bodies (that I have identified so far) washed ashore in SW Scotland.
(edit by spoons - this is a private stone on a CWGC listed grave)

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Adam Brown
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 714 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:05 am Post subject: |
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"Erected by Public Subscription"
Does that mean the locals paid for the lair and headstone?
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spoons

Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1789 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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It normally means they had a 'whip round' of some sort.
\Paul |
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kenmorrison
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Drove thro' snow and fog to this cemetery today and found......
The view is across Wigtown Bay to Garlieston and the Isle of Whithorn.
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kenmorrison
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Name: MILROY, JOHN
Intials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 9th (Glasgow Hdrs.) Bn.
Age: 34
Date of Death: 15/7/1916
Service No: 4224
Additional Information: Son of the late William and Susan Milroy of Carrick, Borgue, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 15 C.
Memorial: Thiepval Memorial, Somme, France.
John is listed on the Borgue War Memorial.
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kenmorrison
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spoons

Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1789 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting, I wonder why it was replaced? Obviously a new stone and with an additional inscription. I have never heard of CWGC placing a non pattern stone.
\Paul _________________ www.ukwarmemorials.co.uk |
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kenmorrison
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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spoons wrote: | Interesting, I wonder why it was replaced? |
The original had the name wrong - but why wait until 2002????
Curious. Maybe the guy who runs the "kirkyards" site would know. A man called James Bell - anyone know him???
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kenmorrison
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Made contact with James Bell and he tells me that a member of L/Corp. Elms family commission a new stone in 2002 primarily to correct the mis-spelling of the name (Elims)
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spoons

Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1789 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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